Destination Change: Episode 30 — Pattie Vargas and Being a Grief Educator

- Episode: 30
- Guest: Pattie Vargas and Being a Grief Educator
- Date Recorded: April 17, 2025
- Date Released: August 16, 2025
- Length: 40 minutes
- Questions/Concerns: Contact Us
As a Compassionate Bereavement Care™ Certified Provider and Kessler Certified Grief Educator, Pattie works with individuals, families, and communities impacted by loss. She is a Peer Parent Coach with the Partnership to End Addiction, and co-facilitates their online grief support community, and is the host of Finding Hope After Loss, Grief Support groups for The Happier Life Project. She is also an Advisor and facilitator with the Hopestream Community, certified in the CRAFT and Invitation to Change models. As an advocate for recovery policies, she is a California State Organizer with the Recovery Advocacy Project, serves on the RCO/RCC Advisory Committee, and was named the 2022 Architect of Recovery by CCAPP (CA Consortium of Addiction Professionals). Her book Secrets, Scars and Heart Shaped Jars shares her family’s journey through addiction, loss and recovery.
Show Notes
- We discussed the Kübler-Ross model of Five stages of grief
- She mentioned the book Finding Meaning: The Sixth Stage of Grief, by David Kessler
- Patti also mentioned Dr. Joanne Cacciatore and her work with traumatic grief, as well as her book Bearing the Unbearable: Love, loss, and the Heartbreaking Path of Grief
- We discussed the concept of compassion fatigue
- I brought up our advocacy work as well as the episode of the podcast where I talked with our advocate, Andrew Kessler
- She recommended the Hopestream podcast and the End it For Good podcast
- You can find out more information about Patti, including how to get a hold of her, at her website The Resilient Journey
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